writer, essayist and physician, Amos Luzzatto turned 80 in June 2008. Born in Rome and lived in Jerusalem up to 18 years, Amos has become the primary surgeon and lecturer for half a century in various Italian hospitals. In 1998 he was appointed President of the Union of Italian Jewish Communities, re-elected to Congress in June 2002 for another four years. He is married and has three children. Months ago was celebrated in public, and recalled how his commitment has always been left, without fear of making the figures.
His views are strict and does not hide those problems exist. Listen to his suggestions is at least interesting, in a time when it seems that nobody can dish out any idea how to react to discomfort toward the institutions and the status quo of a disappointment. Piero Fassino said that in the mid-'70s, Amos Luzzatto era consigliere comunale ad Asti per il partito comunista; si occupava di politica sanitaria. Lucido e acuto, mi ha concesso un'intervista e risponde con cortesia e libertà. Parliamo subito di politica, una sua grande passione.
Cosa pensa del mondo d'oggi?
La mancanza di informazioni sufficienti tra amministranti e amministrati" dice subito Luzzatto, "rende difficile compiere scelte elettorali. E' sempre difficile esercitare un'attività propositiva ma, più che disaffezione alla politica, andrebbe considerata la rassegnazione, la chiusura nel privato, come nelle relazioni fra Paese e Governo. Questo rende più forte chi fa politica, senza confronti né reali approfondimenti. Today we talk and get approval without having given very detailed information.
I think we can still have confidence in the system?
confidence is there, especially if we look at the most qualified people, who then have the votes.
deserve?
If the trust must be given to the person or persons as proposing solutions to the problems of society, you should be able to vote for that person. Here: either we want to empower or to participate, but here we see shortages today can no longer even choose who to delegate, but only those who can choose for us.
Cosa pensa del Partito delle Libertà?
Parla a slogan.
E la Lega?
La Lega è fuori dal mondo perché è una follia voler reinvestire i proventi di un'attività nel luogo in cui viene prodotto, se non altro perché le stesse materie prime vengono importate da fuori. E’ un ragionamento pericoloso e basato su una premessa che non regge. I calzaturifici un tempo erano comuni: conoscevo un imprenditore che era partito con la fabbrichetta di scarpe. Poi questo imprenditore, lungi dal reinvestire localmente, ha fatto una società ed è andato a vendere in Russia ottenendo in scambio, con un accordo particolare, del petrolio. Con una finanziaria ha venduto questo petrolio in occidente e ha fatto un’altra finanziaria per reinvestire questi proventi. Ecco come la globalizzazione può rendere ricchi senza che i soldi rimangano nel luogo da dove partano. Questo perché il capitale cerca il reddito migliore, è fatto così.
Ma allora basterebbe lasciare libero il mercato per far andare tutto bene?
Ora purtroppo i redditi maggiori sono nel mercato della droga, delle armi e delle armi nucleari. Che sanzioni vogliamo prendere contro l’Iran? Il mercato a cui l’Iran vende il suo petrolio si chiama Cina, che ne ha un bisogno folle e lo assorbirà per molti anni ancora e, attraverso la Corea del Nord, aiuta l’Iran coi materiali di prima necessità. L’Italia da sola non può fare niente, nel mondo forse può fare qualcosina in più.
Quindi potrebbe essere ancora utile sfuggire a questo caos con le energie naturali? Evitare petrolio, gas e nucleare?
Questi sono problemi che la gente non conosce, non sa. Io ricordo quando ero chirurgo e il lunedì mattina poteva esserci la notizia di un’esplosione nucleare su un’isola lontana, eppure noi si parlava solo dei risultati di calcio. Figuriamoci gli altri.
Ci crede nell'importanza dell'ambiente da proteggere?
Quando ho fatto the first test on the enjoyment of an environment, without which we are condemned to die, I got great results. Without biodiversity, leaving them to disappear constantly species of flora and fauna from extinction, is not that what remains is better: we need the nitrogen cycle, predators ... Risk of being with an environment that will enable us to survive. Not romantic, but in practical terms. Land use can excite students at school had never followed similar insights.
So there is still hope for a change? Speaking to young people?
should trigger a thought which would lead to action through a new aggregation system. Even in parishes there is greater freedom of speech. We need to create the channels, with analytical purposes, fight the powers that be and use all the channels are open. This also applies to us Jews, this is a real battle must roll up their sleeves and embark on the field, talking to people. Who closes a mistake, lets say of himself who knows what.
Refers just go out and talk to people? Where?
Think about the markets, go talk to make the meeting but not to talk, talk. The tools needed are those of the dialogue, not newspapers, radio and television, the less the opinion polls. We must make an effort to rebuild the neighborhood clubs, country, socializing. Still exist but have moved towards the fun aspect, where in addition to the sport are being produced ultras. These places are able to produce a new culture by removing the social and political dialogues.
Rather ...?
Instead we must build or rebuild the intersection to talk, make 'political education seminars' for people, groups where they speak, they gather for the reception of groups of people who want to live with us. If we do not act, the policy made by strangers will take care of people's problems and never the people themselves. We must begin to reclaim the policy.
He's got a concrete example?
Let's create a map of Needs: we get food, health, job security, the home. Let's look the map of Interest: high a price for each investment, the future, in cash. Well, these two maps would overlap, but this does not happen. Another example: the production of bio-fuels and the need for food. It should align with the profit needs of as many people, but even this happens. In short, it is wrong to bring together disconnected problems among themselves to consider how to resolve them. Need More expand and points at a glance the whole.
